Bob Griffith
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DIY tale of woe. Reflooring 2-br 2-ba condo apartment, including baths. Thought it would be ‘cool’ to replace 15-yr old 2-piece Kohler Cimarron toilets with one-piece Kohler San Souci units. Yes, unnecessary extravagance. But when ready to install one of the San Souci’s, discovered rear internal support features protrude below the plane of the bottom rim by about a tenth of an inch, setting up a lateral rocking mode (without adding shims under the bottom rim and extra caulking gook), especially as the rear internal supports are narrowly spaced. Note, larger area and more widely spaced front internal supports are flush to the bottom rim.
Question 1: Is it reasonable to expect the toilet to be fully supported by the wider and larger overall bearing area bottom rim for lower unit floor loading and stability reasons? Note, the new flooring is commercial “flexible grade” vinyl tile, and will incur a slight set when supporting this toilet -- see first pic.
Also to add insult to injury -- the flow exit for this toilet features a number of radial casting defects projecting into the flow area at the exit to the floor -- see second pic.
Question 2: Is this flow exit defect potentially clog inducing? Note, by comparison the second San Souci toilet has a smoothy glazed flow exit (but also features the protruding rear internal supports).
And yet another unpleasant surprise -- the valve to flush unit rubber fill tube in the tank is kinked on the second San Souci (an eventual failure item). And I am being told these toilets are fully tested at the factory.
Finally and annoyingly -- the tank lids on both San Souci toilets rattle, and with their finish undulating in contrast to the apparently better built Cimarron units being replaced.
Thanks a bunch for your comments either way.
Question 1: Is it reasonable to expect the toilet to be fully supported by the wider and larger overall bearing area bottom rim for lower unit floor loading and stability reasons? Note, the new flooring is commercial “flexible grade” vinyl tile, and will incur a slight set when supporting this toilet -- see first pic.
Also to add insult to injury -- the flow exit for this toilet features a number of radial casting defects projecting into the flow area at the exit to the floor -- see second pic.
Question 2: Is this flow exit defect potentially clog inducing? Note, by comparison the second San Souci toilet has a smoothy glazed flow exit (but also features the protruding rear internal supports).
And yet another unpleasant surprise -- the valve to flush unit rubber fill tube in the tank is kinked on the second San Souci (an eventual failure item). And I am being told these toilets are fully tested at the factory.
Finally and annoyingly -- the tank lids on both San Souci toilets rattle, and with their finish undulating in contrast to the apparently better built Cimarron units being replaced.
Thanks a bunch for your comments either way.