1960's era Speakman-Kent Shower Valves

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    I have a 1960's Speakman-Kent Shower Valve as detailed in the following link http://notthisoldhouse.blogspot.com/2011/01/1960s-era-speakman-kent-shower-valves.html
    I have tried to remove both the hot and cold shower stems but there is something stopping them being removed after I have unscrewed them all the way. They are loose but cannot be removed. I have applied a lot of force to see if I can pull them out but it hasn't worked. Any ideas?
     
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    ExtraMilePlumbing

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    images aren't loading up,sounds a lot simpler to just open wall and replace valve
     
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    Can't work out how to upload images lol. Any suggestions for that?
     
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    So your fixed by your description on photo. But they have new dress up kits for those. Flipping seal over will create a emergency one night at the end of a shower. Please retrieve a new stem and seal. Good that you got seat replaced. That’s 90% of your leak.
     
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    No I'm not fixed, I cannot get the stems out, they unscrew all the way but there seems to be something at the end of the stem , inside the valve, stopping the stem coming out. I have new stems to fit but can't fit them obviously.
     
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    o sry read it wrong. The first hex nut is just a stem seal nut. (Packing nut)These older 3 handles were mostly tiled tight. Anytime the valve has never been broken loose. I have to expand hole to get to to next hex nut. The center tub diverter. Is more a pain. Mark maximum hole size with existing chrome ring (euchuteon) then a diamond dremel. We aren’t opening up wall. Just making room for socket to get into hex fitting on valve.
    I keep going back to that link. There is someone explaining that it’s fixed and ready so I little confused. The pictures show front of steam. Do you have stem sockets?
     
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    when you remove the stem with the water off open the stems half way then back it out....try vinegar or clr to loosen things up
     
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    This is what they look like
     
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    take off the handle/grind it off if needed to create access to the hex nut in wall then use hex tool to unthreat
     
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    if your wondering how to remove the nut behind the tile there are (sockets) at hd or lowes /any hardware store has in the plumbing section after removing that the stem should thread out
     
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    sometimes theyare refered to as cowbells... once you see them you will know why
     

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