Stumped on a Stopped Drain

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Good morning. I had a slow draining bathroom sink and troubleshot by removing/cleaning the P-trap along with cleaning all accessible pvc pipes and getting about of foot of snake into the wall pipe. Got a bunch of gunk out of pvc (nothing from the wall pipe) and put everything back together, but now the sink will not drain at all. It’s almost as if the water isnt making past the p-trap. Don’t know how I made it worse, hoping there’s a trick with how the pipes are laid out. Thanks for your time!
 
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You say. "It’s almost as if the water isn't making past the p-trap."
Take a couple of minutes and drop the trap that will confirm it one way or another.
If everything flowing that far and trap clear, it has to be at or beyond that "foot of snake into the wall pipe".
 

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an indication as to where the plug is, is how much water has gone down the drain before it backs up

immediately the plug is at the sink
couple cups of water, at the trap
a quart, ..in the wall

you have already stated you cleaned the trap
how much water is gong down the drain before it backs up?

.092 gallons per ft on 1.5'' pipe
 

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Don't forget you don't know what amount of water he already has in the pipe. You're assuming it's empty to the point of the plug.
Good thought though.
 

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You say. "It’s almost as if the water isn't making past the p-trap."
Take a couple of minutes and drop the trap that will confirm it one way or another.
If everything flowing that far and trap clear, it has to be at or beyond that "foot of snake into the wall pipe".
I'm assuming it's either some kind of weird pressure issue with the weird turns, or there is something in the wall. I can't get the snake more than a foot into that pipe (any suggestions?). What's got me really stumped is the fact that after cleaning, it got worse and won't flow at all.
 

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an indication as to where the plug is, is how much water has gone down the drain before it backs up

immediately the plug is at the sink
couple cups of water, at the trap
a quart, ..in the wall

you have already stated you cleaned the trap
how much water is gong down the drain before it backs up?

.092 gallons per ft on 1.5'' pipe
After I drop the pipes and drain, the sink runs for about 20 seconds before it backs up. Probably a quart and probably in the wall. I am having trouble getting much snake in there (small to medium sized, good for sink pipes). Any suggestions on how I can navigate the pipes? I have turned and manipulated it all different ways.
 

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I'm assuming it's either some kind of weird pressure issue with the weird turns, or there is something in the wall. I can't get the snake more than a foot into that pipe (any suggestions?). What's got me really stumped is the fact that after cleaning, it got worse and won't flow at all.
It sounds like you may have pushed some of that stuff with the snake enough to compact it and slowing things down even more.
 

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You say. "It’s almost as if the water isn't making past the p-trap."
Take a couple of minutes and drop the trap that will confirm it one way or another.
If everything flowing that far and trap clear, it has to be at or beyond that "foot of snake into the wall pipe".
That's my main suspicion, but I can't get the snake in anymore. Seems more like it is hitting hard pipe turns than a clog.
 

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It sounds like you may have pushed some of that stuff with the snake enough to compact it and slowing things down even more.
Yea, the weird part is that I didn't even use the snake on the wall until after the first run where I just cleaned everything and put it back together. That's when it went from slow to stopped and when I tried for the wall pipe.
 

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I had to look up "facetime" to fine out what you were talking about.o_O
Does that answer your question?

That's an interesting offset assembly. Never knew they existed. Kinda like a handicap offset for wheel chairs.
 
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