Need Help - Vormax American Standard flush issues

[plumbinghelp1]

Hi, I am throwing in the towel. I have been making adjustments on the American Standard 4370A toilet with the Vormax dual flapper and am unable to get the bowel to flush completely. If I press and release the handle, the flaps seem to close too early and the bowel fills up but doesn't go down. If I hold the flapper down, maybe that works 20% of the time. If I press once, let the flappers fall after 3 seconds, then raise them again, that works about 30% of the time. It did work when initially installed 8+ years ago. The toilet's original arm broke and I replaced it with the adjustable one from home depot and regardless of where that is set to I run into the same issue of the bowel not clearing. I included a video below. If I can't figure this out, I will replace the toilet at this point. I appreciate any assistance! Thank you! JT

 

[Twowaxhack]

Throw the whole toilet in a dumpster, it should’ve never been manufactured.

 

[Geofd]

Yeh I put one in a few years ago, American standard toilets are very finicky it might be just a chain length issue, the last picture gives you the model # I know I had to count the amount of loops/balls between the flapper and the float

 

[plumbinghelp1]

Thanks for the input. I can have a little more confidence throwing it out now!

 

[FLForester]

Throw the whole toilet in a dumpster, it should’ve never been manufactured.

If memory serves (from previous forum entries), don't you favor Toto as a brand?

 

[Geofd]

Toto does make a good toilet very good auto flushometers also

 

[Twowaxhack]

If memory serves (from previous forum entries), don't you favor Toto as a brand?

They’re all garbage but the American standard cadet 1.6 gpf is the best for the money. Toto Drake 1.6 is pretty good.

I wouldn’t use anything that had less water than 1.6 per flush

 

[breplum]

My office's 1.28 GPF Am Std Cadet 3 Flowise elongated still has never had a hiccup and unlike Toto, uses off the shelf generic (Fluidmaster) common flapper and ballcock.
I can load this sucker up and it always flushes as good as anything.

 

[Twowaxhack]

Low flow toilets cause problems for old sewers.

 

[TomFOhio]

I live about 15 minutes from the Mansfield Products Plant and I am not real crazy about the Mansfield toilets
anymore. I personally use Gerber and really like them. My house was built in 1932 and knock on wood I
have never had any problems.