Water heater advice...

Discussion in 'General Plumbing Help' started by steph746, Dec 29, 2016.

Help Support Plumbing Forums by donating:

  1. Jan 18, 2017 #101

    frodo

    frodo

    frodo

    Just call me Macgyver Professional Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    7,400
    Likes Received:
    2,312
    Location:
    ,
    Force majeure is a French term literally translated as "greater force", this clause is included in contracts to remove liability for natural and unavoidable catastrophes that interrupt the expected course of events and restrict participants from fulfilling obligations.


    in other words, an act of God, is not covered, storm,flood,tornado stuff like dat...i could be totally wrong,,seek a lawyers opinion
     
  2. Jan 18, 2017 #102

    KULTULZ

    KULTULZ

    KULTULZ

    Jack of All Trades ~ Master of None Professional

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2011
    Messages:
    1,534
    Likes Received:
    316
    Location:
    Between Lost And Found, W (BY GOD) V
    ...hmmph...

    Sounds like the grounds for divorce my first wife filed... :eek:

    ...and I am still paying that lawyers fee so I will have to take your explanation... :cool:
     
  3. Jan 18, 2017 #103

    skelly716

    skelly716

    skelly716

    Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2017
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    San Diego, California
    You'll notice houses in your area with two PVC (white) pipes protruding through the side of an exterior wall. One turned up and one is turned down.
     
  4. Jan 23, 2017 #104

    skelly716

    skelly716

    skelly716

    Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2017
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    San Diego, California
    For each 90 there's a 5' reduction and every 45 there's a 2.5' reduction. Read you manufacturer's installation instructions.
     
  5. Apr 23, 2018 #105

    Julia1984

    Julia1984

    Julia1984

    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2018
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think in the future, it is better to buy a tankless water heater with good customer service and comes with regular maintenance from their technician. It is important to understand what is included when buying the tankless water heater package. For those of you out there who needs to get a tankless water heater, check this article out as it covers all the information needed.
     
  6. Apr 23, 2018 #106

    cmac2012

    cmac2012

    cmac2012

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2018
    Messages:
    55
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Redwood City, People's Republic of California
    Forgive me, I haven't read all the thread yet, not sure if anyone has mentioned the way tankless will reportedly sometimes not kick on from low flow usage, such as shaving and wanting to clean the shaver as you go. My studied take is that one of the only reasons that tankless could be preferable would be in cases where space is very limited, or in a large house with a bathtub or shower a long ways away from the tanked water heater. Having a tankless at that location could make baths a lot easier. An expensive luxury perhaps but waiting for a long time for hot water in a remote corner of the house can be a pain.
     
  7. Apr 23, 2018 #107

    pcride

    pcride

    pcride

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2013
    Messages:
    94
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    ,
    There is a new concept of reducing wasted cold water for the cold “water sandwhich” that someone mentioned with tankless. Because tankless heat up instantly, at the appliance all the water in the lines comes out cold. The device that is now being used takes that cold wastes water that would be going down the drain and circulates it back through the tankless. It works on a timer system and kinda like a power circulator pump. There is a good demo of this on the last couple episodes of Ask This Old House.

    With extreme temp climates I don’t think tankless is a great option. I know someone in Co area that has one tankless for radiant floor and another one for water, plus uses
    a storage tank for the heated water, so essentially the tankless just feeds hot water into the storage. Also if you have hardwater or don’t have soft water system, I hear these tankless need maintainance and calcium cleaning which in my friends case had to get a new one after 4 years at $5k each. (Install and everything)

    I’d stick with a basic atmospheric water heater. They are cheap, easy to replace, they aren’t as efficient as some other types, aren’t loud, and you can get 2 if your worried about capacity. I have a new AO Smith, 50 gal and supports household of 5. 90 min full tank recovery time on first use. Fairly efficient model.

    Also one think you might want to consider is natural gas cost vs electrical.
     
    havasu likes this.

Share This Page