Sliding On A Clamp

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    For the sewer clean out that I need to put in, I put the collar on a 4 inch pipe to test it, and even with clamps loosened all the way, it was very hard to slide the rubber part on to the pipe. When I put the clean out in place I will have to slide the rubber part halfway off the short piece of pipe connected to the clean out, and at the same time on to the existing sewer pipe. That will be really hard, at least for this novice. I don't doubt that using anything slick like grease or petroleum jelly would be a bad idea, but could I use water? My GUESS would be that the water would dry out soon. Especially since the sun will be hitting the pipe because I do not plan to fill in the dirt for at least a few days so I can make sure there is no leak. Any thoughts?
     
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    Use a mixture of dish detergent and water, as a lubricant.
     
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    fold the rubber back on itself, drop the pipe in place
    unfold the rubber. making sure the pipe stop is centered
    slide the ss band in place
    squeeze the band together using 1 hand/centered/lined up/flush. yadda yadda
    alternate as you tighten the 2 screw bands. do NOT tighten one, then the other
    the jacket will crumple and look like shat

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    measure your pipe that you want to fit between 2 bands
    subtract 1/4'' for the stops [1/8'' per stop]
    now the pipe is the correct length
     
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    Please forgive the novice question, but what is a pipe stop?
     
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    inside the rubber gasket
    is a shoulder the stops the pipe from slipping to far
    it is by code that any and all rubber couplings have this

    do you See the little rubber ring in the center?
     

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    Yes I do. Thank you very much.
     
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    I did a dry run with that. The rubber was way too stiff to fold it back.
     
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    I was thinking this same thing. Not that I have tried, but I wonder if setting it our in the sun, making it nice, warm and pliable would help?
     
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    what is the name brand of rubber no hub you are using. part number?
    i have bent back hundreds, i am not saying it is easy.

    another way. is slide the rubber up onto the other pipe then pull it back

    that is hard as hell, but may be easier for you
     
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    If you goop up the inside of the rubber coupling and the ends of the pipes with dish detergent mixed with a little water, the rubber will be able to slide or be twisted or scooched into place much more easily.

    It will not weaken the integrity of the clamping connection, and will not attack the rubber.

    It might also help if you slightly bevel just the outside leading edges of the ends of the pipes, by sanding or with a file.
    So they have a slight taper, which will keep them from digging into and catching on the inside surface of the rubber.
     
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    I think I will go that route. First I will try with just water, and use detergent if necessary.
     
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    If the roles were reversed, I know that I would ask if you had slid the metal plate out of the way, yes I did. But I had not done like Havasu mentioned, and let the sun warm it up.
     
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    I have an idea. The O.D. of my pipe is 4.5. Schedule 40 5 inch pipe has an I.D. of 5.016. I will cut a small piece of 5 inch pipe, slide it in place over my pipe, place my clean out and clamp in place, and slide the 5 inch piece back and forth, bumping the rubber piece into place, if the detergent mix does not work. The plumbing supply place sold me schedule 40, is that thick enough for sewer pipes? Havasu, is your photo of Broderick Crawford from that old cop show?
     
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    Yes it is. A show I grew up watching. Remember his famous saying...."all roads, all codes!"
     
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    I only saw 2 or 3 episodes. They used to show the reruns early in the morning, usually while I am sleeping. I saw a few during sleepless nights. He was great in Born Yesterday, and the one where he was a corrupt politician in All The King's Men. That was supposedly based on one of our governors, Huey P. Long. If it wasn't, it could have been.
     

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