Gas water heater vent

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  1. Mar 26, 2018 #21

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    Dang. I just put in a 50 power vent for my buddy Saturday. My cost on the heater 870 delivered and I charged him 100. It took 2 hours because the gas pipe was different by 5" and I had to rework the pvc exhaust. We put his old 50 power vent at the curb, scrap guys will get it. I guess i let him off cheap.
     
  2. Mar 26, 2018 #22

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    The difference is that you can look yourself in the mirror and know that you treated people fairly.

    I understand that larger businesses have higher costs, but a 100% markup on the appliance AND $1100 installation fee is ridiculous, in my opinion!

    That is why I learned how to replace water heaters myself.
     
  3. Mar 26, 2018 #23

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    I know they have to make money and I have no overhead helping a friend, I was done in 2 hours and I am a little rusty. So 2 hours at 1100 is quite the markup.

    Years back I was doing service for my friend's company and he was charging 800 for a 40 regular vent and our cost was 260. I tried to tell him to lower his price and we would do more heaters. We were 80 to 100 dollars higher than anyone else in the area.

    I know the price of heaters has doubled since and is going up again.
     
  4. Mar 27, 2018 #24

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    This water heater is connected to the air handler since it has a return loop and heats up the house (hydro heating). I had to do all new piping. I also put a SS flexible line past the vent, not pictured and also insulation not pictured.

    I looked up retail cost of water heater online after I replaced it and it was $1100, but that price was posted in a forum in 2012 and the prices might have gone up since. I bought it at Ferguson. Just found it online for $1,689.

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    Yes, there is a big difference between a Power Vent and a Direct Vent like you have.
     
  6. Apr 9, 2018 #26

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    I picked a Bradford White 50 gallon power vent for 850 2 weeks ago. I did a same but no power vent yesterday and the price for the heater was 500 my cost
     
  7. Apr 10, 2018 #27

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    So your saying the first WH was a power vent and the second one was a regular vent into a chimney?
     
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    Yes 2 different buddies. One had a 50 power vent the other went from a 40 to 50 regular vent.
     
  9. Apr 20, 2018 at 5:19 AM #29

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    All I can say to you is that in Canada where I am from, Edmonton Alberta, you have to have 4" double wall B-vent for the venting and you need to have a minimum of 12" of rigid pipe coming off the inlet and outlet of the tank. But those are just the rules here so I can't comment on your jurisdiction.

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  10. Apr 20, 2018 at 6:05 PM #30

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    Atmospheric vent vs direct vent. An atmospheric vent requires a slope of at least 1/4” per foot, and a lot of codes say you have to come up straight either 4-12” can’t rember before the slope starts. And most atmospheric venting requires double wall B pipe. PVC is used a lot for direct venting.

    I thought direct vent had a blower and that’s how it’s able to expel the exhaust?
     
  11. Apr 20, 2018 at 7:34 PM #31

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    Power vent has a blower and is vented in PVC around here.
     

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