city correction; help needed

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  1. Oct 6, 2018 #1

    Tamas

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    Hi,
    Can you help me with this corrections from Glendale, CA city
    I can not understand well
    Thank you
     

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    Can you type out those two sentences? Many folks here are leery of opening up unknown PDF's.
     
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    What don’t you understand? Pretty straight forward corrections.
     
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    Here are the comments...
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    That first comment very similar to another commenters question. Don't think that got cleared up.(I think it was a different person.???)
     
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    What exactly is that first comment saying, exactly. I can make some assumptions.
     
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    If you have 3” pipe use 3” cleanout. Now go to street connection. Measure back 5’. Install cleaniut more than 5’ from main.
    The 2@ arm over says 5’ so don’t arm over more than 5’ to turn your elbow out of wall. May have to move the vertical vent over toward sink.
     
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    So that's saying you must have an exterior cleanout when the main is over 5' from house???:eek: I must be missing something here. I've never heard of such a thing. I'm assuming the main is in the street.
    Or is the street connection within the house. I just can't get it to make any sense to me.

    I know I must be embarrassing myself here.:(
     
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    You need a clean out at the uphill end of all waste lines that run more than five feet from the main.
     
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    Well thanks for your patience. I guess I understand what you guys are saying now. I just never realized that was a requirement.
    I wonder if has anything to do with the fact that the building drain, and I believe the plumbers jurisdiction, in Massachusetts, terminates at a point ten feet outside the inner surface of a building’s foundation wall.
    I'll have to check with some of the locals.
     
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    That’s another local code variation that is common. When I was in Nevada, a plumber could only work from the water meter forward on water, and from the property line in for sewer. It took a license as an underground piping contractor, to go from the mains to the property line, and set the meter, but that contractor couldn’t work on the plumbing side of the line. Snaking to the main was a kind of grey area, that the Contractor’s Board resolved by saying a plumber can snake to the sewer main.
     
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    The “ main “ they are talking about. I believe to be sewer or septic. . Your house better be 5’ from sewer. Here we are required to have a cleanout as the building drain exits building on the exterior. Then if necessary every 65’ but no closer than 10’ from main.
    I don’t know how to bring someone else in but diehard and Frodo can draw on their posts and make a diagram. I figured one of them would have done it already.
    That book that some of these guys sleep by and beat the snot out of daily. Yeah that book was written by burocrats. Political burocrats. So you have to think like a lawyer to understand the tricks. I hate that stupid book. By stupid book I mean the magical code book. I would make a horrible cop.
     
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    The codes are free online. The Code with Commentary, isn’t. And having the Code with the Commentary, is worth the money.

    The commentary explains, why they included the requirement. The model codes are actually written by Engineers, Tradesmen, and Manufacturers. There is very little in the codes that don’t have real reasons for being there. And, the commentary explains what they are trying to accomplish.

    The local modifications, are frequently written by local politicians, and are almost always the things that are strange, and don’t make sense. Because many of them are purely political, and have no logical reason to be there.
     
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    Sounds like you have a three inch drain under your house that has a branch that is more than 5 feet off the main. This line must have a CO on the end of that line. Easy Peasy.
     
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    Does anyone have a drain branch from their house that is NOT more than 5 feet off the main?
    Also, there are plumbing codes that don't go beyond 5 to 10 feet from the foundation.
     
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    It’s within the building. We lay out our “trunk” lines so that the branches are as close to the “trunk” as possible. Less than 5 feet, I save a combi and a clean out.
     
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    1] you have a 3'' pipe that is within 5' from the outside wall, he wants a clean out on that pipe

    2] you have a 2'' p trap, that is more than 5' from the vent,



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