Attention first time posters... Please help us help you. when asking for help on plumbing issues please include the following, if you can... 1) location of where you are located. (We do not want your address, but various states have certain codes, and knowing this information up front will allow us to provide the most current and your state's codes. We may tell you 'yes you can', but your municipality may say 'no you cant!') 2) Pictures, and/or diagrams. Plumbing is complicated enough. If you show us what you have, we can better show you what to do!