1st floor toilet clogs while 2nd floor not affected (same soil pipe)

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Does 1st floor pvc drain look like it could be incorrect with numerous fittings?

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  1. Jul 9, 2018 #1

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    The home owners were told that the problem is from a cast iron soil pipe after the point where they are tied in. Problem with that is the second floor toilet can still be used even though the first floor is unflushable.
     

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    are they the same brand toilet.....does the st floor toilet have the correct parts in it can you show both toilets......has any one pulled the toilet to see if there is an obstruction in the toilet or in the pipe can you show both toilets????
     
  3. Jul 11, 2018 #3

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    In this first picture the 2nd floor waste pipe is coming down just above first floor inlet.
    muise soil pipe.jpg
    The lower arrow shows where they were told the problem is, and if they changed this one pipe that there would be no more blockage problems.

    Now, isn't this a red flag in the first floor coupling (not sure what it is really called) Where the PVC enters the cast iron?
     
  4. Jul 11, 2018 #4

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    if you run a 6' auger down the toilet it looks like you will reach the main.....has anyone who has told you there was a problem snaked or used a camera to see whats going on
    that's the only way you will know …..if you flush the toilet in question.....holding the handle down until the water is gone from the tank does it flush or does it fill the toilet bowl has anyone pulled the toilet in question and checked the outlet...or run an auger thru the toilet to see if it makes it thru?????????
     
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    The PVC pipe in the CI hub looks suspect too. Doesn't look like a EPDM donut but some kind of RTV sealant.
     
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    Looking for sewer camera experiences looking for indications of bad cast ion plumbing due to restricted line. As in 2003, 2012 in our 1969 built home. It clears and returns as if the line is rotted as in the past 2 issues. Possibly tree roots involved or what was put in the line. I am interested in purchasing an inexpensive borer scope camera after spending approx. 600.00 on the two camera expenses vs plumbing

    In the mid 70s I ran the line about ever 2 years due to tree roots being found. I went back to an as needed cleaning to find in 2003 a pool due to rotted pipe under the kitchen (out around blockage and back in.

    In 2012 a section rotted out a section of 2" cast vs close to a joint. found due to my cable would hang due to approx 12" of bottom was missing. I have not found my current restriction that had very little resistance about at the 03 location.
     
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    its a possiblility that's lead wool not much room for a ladel up there
     
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    If you run the upstairs water, does it fill up the downstairs commode, or does it not affect it? If it does not backup the downstairs commode while the upstairs water is running then the mainline you have an arrow pointed at is fine. I it is just that toilet that is stopping up on the horizontal drain "pvc" then you need to do a commode test first with a bucket to make sure it is not the commode, and secondly if the commode works properly then as someone stated earlier just run an extended toilet auger as the problem will be in the horizontal pvc line. If when flushing the upstairs commode, and running upstairs water does back up the downstairs commode, then it is the vertical cast iron line that is having the issue. I do not see anywhere in the picture where anything has penetrated that line "at the arrow" so if the issue is at the arrow it will just be something in the line that should be able to be cleared out.
     
  9. Jul 28, 2018 #9

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    Thanks for all the help on here, you were definitely right in saying to run a camera down there, I couldn't believe that the whole problem was due to a hammer stapler that must of belong to the roofer that installed a new roof at this house. That was in the Fall of 2015.
     

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    I had to get a view from below to realize what it was.
     

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    And yes, we got it out! Thanks again!
     

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    Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!! Whoever dropped it down the vent pipe probably new it.
     

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