Upon flushing toilet, water in bowl fills to an adequate level. When the water coming into the tank stops filling the tank, the water level in the bowl recedes to an inadequate level. Any advice on how to keep it from receding?
Water recedes in toilet bowl
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My first guess is to check for a leak from the wax ring. I have the same problem & I believe it's because of the wax ring leaking (although my closet flange is broken as well-- waiting on a tool to arrive to remove the flange). I'm no plumber though, so might be best for one of the experts to weigh in.
Is it flushing properly,did this just start happening,
at work we once had a toilet with pin hole in the china and it would ddrain the bowl
You could try dying the water in the bowl and see if its draining thru a crack you cant see
another way you can loose water is if something is stuck in the trap way acting like a wick
run a toilet auger thru just to rulle that out
you may have to pull the toilet and check the china
at work we once had a toilet with pin hole in the china and it would ddrain the bowl
You could try dying the water in the bowl and see if its draining thru a crack you cant see
another way you can loose water is if something is stuck in the trap way acting like a wick
run a toilet auger thru just to rulle that out
you may have to pull the toilet and check the china
Diehard
In Remembrance
As a supplement to what Geofd has already advised/suggested.
The level in the bowl is controlled by the trap weir unless there's a crack or pinhole in the china or there was something stuck over the Weir causing a wicking action to pull the water over.(As Geofd mentioned)
A leaky wax seal would not be the cause of lower than normal bowl level.
There can be cases due to partial blockage in the drain pipe or poor venting where the draining action is slow enough that the tank fill valve will be finished refilling the bowl before the siphon action of the toilet is done. Leaving a water surface below the normal Weir elevation.
As a test to help determine, you should slowly, manually, add water to the bowl to see if the level comes back to the normal level and stays there.
The level in the bowl is controlled by the trap weir unless there's a crack or pinhole in the china or there was something stuck over the Weir causing a wicking action to pull the water over.(As Geofd mentioned)
A leaky wax seal would not be the cause of lower than normal bowl level.
There can be cases due to partial blockage in the drain pipe or poor venting where the draining action is slow enough that the tank fill valve will be finished refilling the bowl before the siphon action of the toilet is done. Leaving a water surface below the normal Weir elevation.
As a test to help determine, you should slowly, manually, add water to the bowl to see if the level comes back to the normal level and stays there.
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Jeff Handy
Pro Handyman, NOT A Pro Plumber
Post a pic of all the numbers and info printed or molded into the inside of the back of the tank.
So we can look up your info on your exact toilet.
Meanwhile, it could be a partially clogged drain, which can cause the bowl water to siphon down after refilling.
Also, many modern toilets have a VERY small water surface area.
So we can look up your info on your exact toilet.
Meanwhile, it could be a partially clogged drain, which can cause the bowl water to siphon down after refilling.
Also, many modern toilets have a VERY small water surface area.
Thats the first place to start,drip some food coloring or dye sold ar hd you ight see it go somewhere it shouldnt
Thanks to all who are willing to help. Here are a few pictures and a short video. The pic with 2 marks in the bowl--the furthest mark from the drain is where the water level gets to after the flush. As the tank is refilling, the water recedes to the second line. In the video, I put a gallon of water in the bowl and over 15 seconds or so, the water level recedes to the usual level. *** Having trouble uploading all the pictures and video.
Jeff Handy
Pro Handyman, NOT A Pro Plumber
No pics or video showing.
Meanwhile, post the brand and model number of the toilet, that info will be molded or printed on the inside of the back of the tank.
If the bowl level is dropping very slowly after bowl refilling stops, you likely have a partial drain clog.
Could be right in the toilet trap, or somewhere nearby in the drain.
Buy a Ridgid brand six foot toilet auger and snake out the toilet and drain.
Meanwhile, post the brand and model number of the toilet, that info will be molded or printed on the inside of the back of the tank.
If the bowl level is dropping very slowly after bowl refilling stops, you likely have a partial drain clog.
Could be right in the toilet trap, or somewhere nearby in the drain.
Buy a Ridgid brand six foot toilet auger and snake out the toilet and drain.
Jeff Handy
Pro Handyman, NOT A Pro Plumber
Yes, like posting to Google Photo, Flickr, Photobucket, etc.
Jeff Handy
Pro Handyman, NOT A Pro Plumber
The Aquasource is a Lowe’s brand toilet.
Around $100.00 and pretty highly rated.
Some made in China, some Canada.
Complaints are that the supplied seat is too flimsy.
Put on a nice Bemis instead.
And the tank-to-bowl bolts and nuts are steel and rust out, install brass ones instead.
Exact free warranty replacement parts on some models are sometimes hard to get, poor info at Lowe’s, people end up just putting in Fluidmaster or Korky parts as needed.
The bowl level is not adjustable.
Meanwhile....
As long as you verify that during and after a flush, as the tank is refilling, the little hose in the tank is putting a stream of water down the overflow tube, then everything is working as designed.
The water spot in the bowl is small, as almost all 1.28 gallon low flow toilets are now.
So your “drop zone” for your business will be a small target.
Sit further back, or flush twice to help clean the bowl of skid marks.
Or hold the lever handle down for a few seconds during a flush, this is how it is designed to give more water for a bigger load.
Around $100.00 and pretty highly rated.
Some made in China, some Canada.
Complaints are that the supplied seat is too flimsy.
Put on a nice Bemis instead.
And the tank-to-bowl bolts and nuts are steel and rust out, install brass ones instead.
Exact free warranty replacement parts on some models are sometimes hard to get, poor info at Lowe’s, people end up just putting in Fluidmaster or Korky parts as needed.
The bowl level is not adjustable.
Meanwhile....
As long as you verify that during and after a flush, as the tank is refilling, the little hose in the tank is putting a stream of water down the overflow tube, then everything is working as designed.
The water spot in the bowl is small, as almost all 1.28 gallon low flow toilets are now.
So your “drop zone” for your business will be a small target.
Sit further back, or flush twice to help clean the bowl of skid marks.
Or hold the lever handle down for a few seconds during a flush, this is how it is designed to give more water for a bigger load.
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Diehard
In Remembrance
Are you saying that the lower level was the normal bowl level?
Try this video and picture
https://www.flickr.com/photos/187199078@N05/49600404098/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/187199078@N05/49600404098/in/dateposted-public/
Jeff Handy
Pro Handyman, NOT A Pro Plumber
I can see the vid and pic.
My Crane low-flow toilet has an even smaller water spot than that.
So I say it is normal.
If it gets any lower, then the drain pipe or toilet trap are partly plugged, and you need a toilet auger, or a snake if the clog is farther away.
My Crane low-flow toilet has an even smaller water spot than that.
So I say it is normal.
If it gets any lower, then the drain pipe or toilet trap are partly plugged, and you need a toilet auger, or a snake if the clog is farther away.
Diehard
In Remembrance
So I don't understand. Is it a case that he didn't know what the original level was? He just thought it should be higher?
I got an Aquasource faucet about 20 years ago. I knew the model # but no longer had the receipt. Went to Lowes & showed them a photo of the box bc I couldn't find a working contact number for them. Lowes called them & they sent me replacement cartridges for free. So, they do have some support, but I don't know what level of support they'd have for their toilets. I personally like Toto toilets.
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