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The sink I am putting in this apartment has a wall I can use for the vent pipe and is about 5 feet away, but the drain pipe from the sink has a long way to go and the drain pipe has to stay inside the floor joist, I need to keep the pipe as high as I can at the sink. In the picture I drew , can I vent the island sink drain right off the back of the drain pipe ? I downloaded a lot of pics off the internet showing venting , but none of the pics show venting straight off the back.
 

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If I move the sink to the rear of the circle ? Will that make it work ?

Venting off the back just won't work ??

This is on the second story and I have to keep it inside the 11 7/8" floor joist. The drain has to run about 17 feet.
 

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Chuck, you appear to be in Anaheim. I assume Anaheim, CA.
Most all California jurisdictions adhere to the California Plumbing Code, which conforms to the Uniform Plumbing Code.
voletl's pictures are the ONLY code approved method to use.
To get the most minimal assembly, a plumber would use copper DWV and even then, it will not fit in your limited joist applications.
Some may suggest an AAV, which is not approved in California, but is likely the only way to do what you want. But be aware that such an installation will need to be disclosed if/when the building is sold and it all will not ever pass a plumbing inspection, and would be subject to complete red-tagging and required removal if and when this comes to light.
 
Chuck, you appear to be in Anaheim. I assume Anaheim, CA.
Most all California jurisdictions adhere to the California Plumbing Code, which conforms to the Uniform Plumbing Code.
voletl's pictures are the ONLY code approved method to use.
To get the most minimal assembly, a plumber would use copper DWV and even then, it will not fit in your limited joist applications.
Some may suggest an AAV, which is not approved in California, but is likely the only way to do what you want. But be aware that such an installation will need to be disclosed if/when the building is sold and it all will not ever pass a plumbing inspection, and would be subject to complete red-tagging and required removal if and when this comes to light.
I am in Idaho and they do allow an AAV. I just thought venting off the back would work. This job s so small, but it has to stay within the floor joists because there is a room below. I would be hard to get "voletl's" plumbing pic inside the floor joist.
 
You can run the foot vent as high as needed so long as it is NOT the drain side of the Boston loop.
This is the entire purpose of the loop venting system.
 
If you can run it in 3", you won't need an AAV, nor the loop vent. That is allowed by code in my area, and is my preferred method of venting island sinks.

Another benefit of running it in 3" is that under my code, 3" only requires 1/8" per foot, saving you 2" of fall.
 
Good call phishfood.
UPS and IPC codes allow a 3" ventless waste.
UPC however still requires 1/4" fall
 
Thank you for the answers, I am learning a lot. Is there a problem from having to much venting. I drew a new sketch that shows an AAC above the sink connection, a clean out and I vented off the back of the drain line. Everything will be 2" pipe. Is venting off the back a problem ?
 

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Thanks Phisfood, In that drawing I put a cleanout on the upsided wye. I also put the rear vent. Is having that vent completely wrong if it has an AAV vent over the sink connection. It would seem more vent is better then less vent
Frodo answered that one in post #9.

It may seem far fetched, but I have seen this kind of thing happen.
I believe it can happen, in the last drawing I put a clean out on the uphill wye. I also left the vent coming off the back. Is there a problem in having too much vent at a sink ?
 
Thanks Phisfood, In that drawing I put a cleanout on the upsided wye. I also put the rear vent. Is having that vent completely wrong if it has an AAV vent over the sink connection. It would seem more vent is better then less vent

I believe it can happen, in the last drawing I put a clean out on the uphill wye. I also left the vent coming off the back. Is there a problem in having too much vent at a sink ?



you can install this h fitting rolled vent
or the 3'' waste stack
you can not put the vent in the back....as i have already explained to you in detail
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Is that suppose to represent the only vent???

EDIT: Looks like it's been revised to show an Island Sink Vent since by original post. So the AAV apparently would not be required. As long as you can tie into that rolled vent.
 
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Okay, so that was just to a have an extra vent and no more island vent..
I'm kinda slow that way.
Thanks for your help, I am new to plumbing and was wondering how to make all this happen, I think it will work just fine. This seems to be a dumb question , but can you have too much vent by venting out the back and using the AAV above the sink p trap.
 

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