Is heater a silent killer?

[watson]

Hi

I am using a heater.I heard that carbon monoxide gas can be a silent killer for gas heater users. Then what are the precautions for using a heater?

 

[frodo]

Appex Combination Carbon Monoxide Detector and Smoke Detector Battery Operated with Photoelectric Sensor Alarm

 

[Caduceus]

Appex Combination Carbon Monoxide Detector and Smoke Detector Battery Operated with Photoelectric Sensor Alarm

I've got three in my home. Money well spent.

 

[frodo]

me also. 2 bedrooms and the kitchen

 

[KULTULZ]

I am thinking these were popular years ago as houses were not as tight as they are now and natural ventilation was provided. After all, people did live through it. I don't think I would want one today unless there is an HVAC air exchange system or you leave a window cracked as also with a kerosene heater.

Yes, carbon monoxide inside the home is certainly a danger, and that's the best reason to get rid of unvented gas space heaters. It's just never a good idea to burn a fuel inside your home without having a vent for the combustion gases.

Carbon monoxide results from incomplete combustion of natural gas. During complete combustion, natural gas, which is mostly methane (CH4), combines with oxygen (O2) from the air and produces carbon dioxide (CO2) and water vapor (H2O). When the combustion process isn't complete, you get more carbon monoxide (CO) and less carbon dioxide.

The often unrecognized problem with these heaters, though, is the huge amount of water vapor that they put in your home's air. In my grandparents' home, I think the gas space heaters worked well most of the time and didn't produce much CO. They did produce a lot of water vapor, however.

SOURCE- http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-...d-Natural-Gas-Space-Heaters-Should-Be-Removed

 

[Mr_David]

Appex Combination Carbon Monoxide Detector and Smoke Detector Battery Operated with Photoelectric Sensor Alarm

HMmmmmm ? I have one in my hallway.
I wonder if the battery is still good.

Yep !! You may have just saved a life!!

 

[Mr_David]

Hi

I am using a heater.I heard that carbon monoxide gas can be a silent killer for gas heater users. Then what are the precautions for using a heater?

Precautions may depends on what kind of heater you're referring to.

Portable or permanently installed units can both be killers.
both require proper ventilation

Don't use a portable one in the room you sleep in. You May not wake up.

 

[frodo]

HMmmmmm ? I have one in my hallway.
I wonder if the battery is still good.

Yep !! You may have just saved a life!!

when i built my house, i pulled wire to them, and installed the kind with out batteries.

 

[KULTULZ]

when i built my house, i pulled wire to them, and installed the kind with out batteries.

And if you lose power in the middle of the night?

 

[frodo]

not worried about power loss, thats what my generator is for


we lose power frequently out here, lots of trees that fall over during storms

 

[KULTULZ]

But, ...for the less fortunate that do not have the luxury of a generator, the alarm(s) should have battery backup.

What if you had a circuit failure or an electrical fire on that circuit (they are on a dedicated circuit, right)?

 

[frodo]

But, ...for the less fortunate that do not have the luxury of a generator, the alarm(s) should have battery backup.

What if you had a circuit failure or an electrical fire on that circuit (they are on a dedicated circuit, right)?

what if what if what if


cause I hate that damn CHIRP CHIRP of batteries

3 separate dedicated circuits.

 

[KULTULZ]

what if what if what if

cause I hate that damn CHIRP CHIRP of batteries

3 separate dedicated circuits.

Fancy...

But (yes again)... ...if the batteries were replaced on a regular schedule there would be no chirpies...

 

[frodo]

not fancy, lazy, it was easier to pull home runs than to daisy chain

 

[watson]

Thanks, all of you

 

[watson]

Thanks for reply..

 

[KULTULZ]

not fancy, lazy, it was easier to pull home runs than to daisy chain

You know something, pulling individual home runs is a better way of going about it. The alarms do have battery backup and the circuits AFCI protected?

This would be cost prohibitive in new construction and major remodels but if you have the $$$ and desire, why not...

 

[fixitron]

Any combustion appliance (including gas, LP, kerosene) that does not vent outside ("ventless") can produce high levels of CO (Carbon Monoxide). They should never be used in a sleeping area.
CO alarms do not go off until they sense >70 ppm for >1 1/2 hrs. Some will alarm as low as about 35 ppm after several hours. Digital displays do NOT display or detect any level below 35 ppm. So, you won't die but could feel sick (Flu symptoms, lethargy, etc.)
Most CO alarms must be replaced every 5 years
IMO, it is quite stupid to connect any alarm to a AFCI or GFCI protected circuit. Smoke and CO alarms are best wired to a lighting circuit to avoid flipping a breaker when an alarm goes off, leaving you unprotected. They should also be interconnected. Hard-wired and wirelessly interconnected alarms are now quite reliable.

 

[CMPLumber]

Check the battery on that thing at least once per year. Don't wanna find out the hard way it's gone out!

 

[plumb73888]

speaking of smoke detectors can they be modified to include a hard-wire connection if the detector has battery power only as it came from the factory ?
specifically this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064S9IQ4/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20