Mitchell-DIY-Guy
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So, my brother owns a very weird house in Los Cerillos, New Mexico. It's a geodesic dome. Built by an eccentric in the late 1980s and never quite finished and lots of things done in very mysterious ways. My brother is smart but has had to learn a lot of everything (plumbing, heating, electrical etc.) in order to finish, sort out, correct, repair and otherwise maintain the home's systems. Recently we got on the discussion of his home's water system, and part of that was in another thread.
Here's what his water system is like: Water source is an above ground, 100,000 gallon town-owned tank. Every user in the town (population 229) is downhill from the tank EXCEPT "the dome" as he calls his home. So for his water, there's a small "pump house" located near the tank, which pumps water up to his home. Inside his home, the water goes into two poly tanks in his basement, I want to say the capacity each is 500 gallons. There's a float valve (he has not identified that one to me yet) in the tanks, and when water drops to a certain level in them, the pump in the pump house is turned on (via a contactor/motor starter) and the tanks fill until the float switch turns them off.
Water to the home then, is supplied from these tanks. I think initially when he bought the home, the water supply wasn't working, and a local plumber installed a Goulds MQ pump. Well that has a built in non-adjustable pressure switch, and all of a 14 ounce storage tank. Totally inappropriate to supply basically a two-story home from tanks in the basement. Not surprisingly water pressure and volume, particularly at bathrooms distant on the second floor was abysmal. It wasn't a lot better in the rest of the house either.
@SHEPLMBR suggested a DAB Esybox, but not commonly available. Saw some in the $1,400 price range online; too costly. @Valveman suggested his Cycle Stop Valve along with a pump like a J5SH or J15S. Well those pumps may be solid and robust, and way better than the Goulds MQ, but they carry price tags between $880 and $1,100--not to mention the $500+ for the PK1A kit. I cannot say which of these might be a better or best solution but I was told they were out of his price range at the moment. (apparently "the dome", though purchased at a bank auction cheap, is a money pit as he sorts through the mess others left there)
So, I told him to go with a fairly conventional setup. He got a 44 gallon pressure tank ($350), a 40/60 switch ($30), and a cheap jet pump for $100. He'll have to blow through a LOT of those pumps before he comes close to the cost of the aforementioned Goulds, so this was a good intermediate step to solve a problem NOW. If the pump fails in the year, it's under warranty and he can get a spare quickly.
He had never used PEX, never properly wired these things, didn't initially understand some of the components and why they are there, never used SharkBite push fittings, etc. But he learned very quickly and in a matter of hours (spread out over a week or so with too many trips to too many stores to get little plumbing and wiring parts, etc.) put his system together. Our texts back and forth are in the hundreds. It all came together shortly after this attached photo was taken.
He's extremely pleased. Never before have they enjoyed such water pressure and volume at this home prior. He's a happy camper at the moment (until the pump fails, but that's yet to come and he knows it)
Here's what his water system is like: Water source is an above ground, 100,000 gallon town-owned tank. Every user in the town (population 229) is downhill from the tank EXCEPT "the dome" as he calls his home. So for his water, there's a small "pump house" located near the tank, which pumps water up to his home. Inside his home, the water goes into two poly tanks in his basement, I want to say the capacity each is 500 gallons. There's a float valve (he has not identified that one to me yet) in the tanks, and when water drops to a certain level in them, the pump in the pump house is turned on (via a contactor/motor starter) and the tanks fill until the float switch turns them off.
Water to the home then, is supplied from these tanks. I think initially when he bought the home, the water supply wasn't working, and a local plumber installed a Goulds MQ pump. Well that has a built in non-adjustable pressure switch, and all of a 14 ounce storage tank. Totally inappropriate to supply basically a two-story home from tanks in the basement. Not surprisingly water pressure and volume, particularly at bathrooms distant on the second floor was abysmal. It wasn't a lot better in the rest of the house either.
@SHEPLMBR suggested a DAB Esybox, but not commonly available. Saw some in the $1,400 price range online; too costly. @Valveman suggested his Cycle Stop Valve along with a pump like a J5SH or J15S. Well those pumps may be solid and robust, and way better than the Goulds MQ, but they carry price tags between $880 and $1,100--not to mention the $500+ for the PK1A kit. I cannot say which of these might be a better or best solution but I was told they were out of his price range at the moment. (apparently "the dome", though purchased at a bank auction cheap, is a money pit as he sorts through the mess others left there)
So, I told him to go with a fairly conventional setup. He got a 44 gallon pressure tank ($350), a 40/60 switch ($30), and a cheap jet pump for $100. He'll have to blow through a LOT of those pumps before he comes close to the cost of the aforementioned Goulds, so this was a good intermediate step to solve a problem NOW. If the pump fails in the year, it's under warranty and he can get a spare quickly.
He had never used PEX, never properly wired these things, didn't initially understand some of the components and why they are there, never used SharkBite push fittings, etc. But he learned very quickly and in a matter of hours (spread out over a week or so with too many trips to too many stores to get little plumbing and wiring parts, etc.) put his system together. Our texts back and forth are in the hundreds. It all came together shortly after this attached photo was taken.
He's extremely pleased. Never before have they enjoyed such water pressure and volume at this home prior. He's a happy camper at the moment (until the pump fails, but that's yet to come and he knows it)