RickFlorida
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I'm about to decide on which toilet to buy for my bathroom remodel. I hear a lot of great things about Toto Drake II. But is it really worth the extra money over a decent Kholer toilet? Of note is that I'm 6 feet and 2 inches so I will definitely be buying a tall toilet and will definitely be at least 1.6 gpf. But a specific question I have is when you purchase a more premium toilet like a Toto, do they really have higher quality fill valve parts in the top end of the toilet or do Toto's have the same parts on the top end as a Kholer so you are just paying for a better design of the bottom part of the toilet?
I believe 10 years ago all Toto's were made in Japan so they were definitely worth the money. But Toto's are now made here so what is the difference over a Kholer? The german brands Grohe seem to have had the same issue. Years ago all the Grohe valves and trims were made in Germany but now only a certain premium line of Grohe trim has the parts made in Germany. The quality control of Japan is superior to other countries because they practice something called "kaizen" and they studied (ironically) and American quality control guru named Edwards Deming. (Who all the American executives hated and never listened to because they were afraid quality means less profits).
I also just discovered there are "one piece construction" so they are easier to clean. I'm open to any quality brand or recommendation.
Thanks for any input.
I believe 10 years ago all Toto's were made in Japan so they were definitely worth the money. But Toto's are now made here so what is the difference over a Kholer? The german brands Grohe seem to have had the same issue. Years ago all the Grohe valves and trims were made in Germany but now only a certain premium line of Grohe trim has the parts made in Germany. The quality control of Japan is superior to other countries because they practice something called "kaizen" and they studied (ironically) and American quality control guru named Edwards Deming. (Who all the American executives hated and never listened to because they were afraid quality means less profits).
I also just discovered there are "one piece construction" so they are easier to clean. I'm open to any quality brand or recommendation.
Thanks for any input.
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