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2 days ago my water got scorching hot on the hot water side. The next day I had no hot water. Checked the breaker, it was good. But the reset on the top thermostat tripped. A little bit of research led me to believe the thermostat was bad and overheated the water then tripped the reset. Went to Lowe's today, bought the kit with new thermostats and elements. Figured I would freshen it up. Drained the tank, install was fairly simple and straightforward. Turn everything back on, no sparks and no leaks. About 2 hours later I had water running out of my laundry room. Cleaned up about 5 gallons of water, turned the thermostats down about 10 degrees (they were on 125). An hour later the PRV was open again pouring very hot water in the laundry room floor. I determined the water is getting hotter than it should and the PRV is doing its job. I'm lost. Did I buy a faulty thermostat? Could it be something else?
 
Do you have city water? Do you have a Pressure reducing valve? Do you have an expansion tank?
 
City water yes, expansion tank no, not sure on the pressure reducing valve. the issue started just a few days ago and the water is way hotter than what it should be
 
Which leads me to believe it is not a water pressure issue but a water temperature issue
 
While it does sound like the tank might be overheating, I would want to check what the water temperature is actually getting to. The T&P safety valve is designed to open at 210 degrees, or at 150 PSI.
 
What would be the best way to find out what the water is actually getting to?
 
Do I check at the nearest faucet? At the tank drain?
 
Ok. I'll turn it all back on tonight. Hopefully I can get it warmed up and check the temp before it blows off again. Getting tired of cleaning up water haha. If the relief valve starts pouring water again, what is the best way to get it to stop quick? Cut the water supply and open faucets?
 
Ok. I'll turn it all back on tonight. Hopefully I can get it warmed up and check the temp before it blows off again.

Getting tired of cleaning up water haha. If the relief valve starts pouring water again, what is the best way to get it to stop quick? Cut the water supply and open faucets?

If there is no floor drain at the TPRV discharge tube (or discharge tube run to the outside), simply place a bucket under it to catch the overflow until the problem is found.

:( ...sheesh...

If the relief valve starts pouring water again, what is the best way to get it to stop quick? Cut the water supply and open faucets?

Shut the cold water supply valve, open the hot water faucet @ the laundry sink and cut the power.

Ensure the WH is fully filled and the system burped before restoring power.

How old is the WH? It may be a defective TPRV.

TPRV Catch Receptacle.jpg
 
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...hmm...

While reading on this subject, I came across this-

!!!Watch Out!!!

If the TP or pressure relief valve is leaking the system is dangerously unsafe and should be shut down immediately - details are at BLEVE EXPLOSIONS

Found within this website- http://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Electric_Water_Heater_High_Temp_Cutoff.php

I think... :rolleyes: ...if the TPRV opens because of an overheating (and resultant excess pressure) event, that the incoming cold water will cool the heated water in the WH and give some relief. It it keeps spitting, something is very wrong.

The safety switch should trip if a continuous overheating event and is not only a weak TPRV opening because of resultant excess pressure also,
 
City water yes, expansion tank no, not sure on the pressure reducing valve. the issue started just a few days ago and the water is way hotter than what it should be

If municipal water, most likely there is a PRV @ the meter, and even with no free standing PRV in the system, the lack of an expansion tank may cause the TPRV to open (result of thermal expansion).

You need to (IMO) to put a 24hr test on system water pressure along with a water temp reading. When the TPRV opens, the water being exposed to air temp will be @ boiling while the actual water temp in the WH may be less.
 
A thermostat is designed to shut the temperature of the water off when it reaches the chosen temperature, but if the heat-sensing device goes bad, then the water temperature will continue to climb until the backup thermostat shuts off the power. Both thermostats need to be tested to see which one has failed. You will probably need a professional to pull it out and replace it. Also, you need to test the element.

An element is tested with an ohm meter; a small current is passed through the element to see if it is unbroken.



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