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Old 06-06-2012, 12:21 AM   #1
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I came home last night and in my garage I see a puddle under my water heater. I have a home warranty so I call them, they send someone out and now I'm trying to find out if im getting taken. This is what I'm told I need to pay for outside of my home warranty. I'm told the water heater and installation is covered so I'm not listing it. I live in california so I'm not sure if these costs are due to bring my water heater up to code.

Expansion tank: $170
Gas Drip Leg: $65
Bonding and Grounding: $65
Mod Straps: $55
Gas Flex: $32
Gas Valve: $36
Mod T&P: $75
Mod Flu: $82
Disposal: $75
Permit: $125
Total: $780

Again this is outside of our home warranty. I've already paid my $60 deductible. Am I getting taken?



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Old 06-06-2012, 12:40 AM   #2
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It's hard to say. Prices very according to location. What I will say is the total job of replacing the heater with the added work shouldn't have taken any more then 2 hrs. As far as changes for the T&P valve, gas line and flu that should be part of the installation of the heater.

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Old 06-06-2012, 01:14 AM   #3
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I would also contact my warranty company and question them on what you coverage covers. good luck.

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Old 06-06-2012, 04:53 AM   #4
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My cousin had a similar problem with a home warranty plumber, with a bad set of parallel water heaters. He got the outrageous bill, then complained to the warranty company. After a few heated conversations, they finally paid the bill and terminated the contract plumbers, because of numerous complaints from gouged customers.

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Old 06-06-2012, 02:21 PM   #5
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We used to do work for American Home Shield. What a rip off. They only seem to cover things that would never break. All the rest are not covered. I would never pay for one of those any more than I would pay $30.00 for an extended warranty on a $50.00 item. In electronics and appliances, this seems to be the norm.

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I would say that your getting bent t&p is in the water heater itself and if you don't have a closed water supply there really isn't a need for the expansion tank. And if he plans on using a flex line for the gas there is no need for a new valve and drip leg unless there isn't one already

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Old 05-23-2013, 05:27 AM   #7
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As working for American home shield , those prices are the norm. When ahs physically states that installation is only putting the water heater in the spot , do I agree, not really. But working for them I know, you follow their rules , they do the tell you what they cover and not. Not the plumber it's your insurance.

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Also those are code upgrades, and modifications. If you have an older heater a licensed contractor needs to bring the water heater fully up to code...

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Old 05-23-2013, 08:44 AM   #9
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As stated above if your old system is not up to code and the plumber needs to pull a permit then yes you will need extras, every company will have their own markup on material, you as a customer can check that the permit is pulled as one recourse. AHS has funny rules what they will and will not cover to make money off the job a lot of guys may will install everything that's required by code if there is a chance it's going to be inspected, it protects you and them.


Expansion tank: code item many areas
Gas Drip Leg: gas code
Bonding and Grounding: gas line has to be bonded to electrical system normally done on new homes
Mod Straps: ....I'm thinking earthquake straps
Gas Flex: standard for most gas appliances
Gas Valve: new shut off valve
Mod T&P: may have to change routing for new heater
Mod Flu: normally different heights
Disposal: $75 an extra company policy
Permit: $125 like I said check and see if it gets pulled and inspected
Total: $780

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I would also contact my warranty company and question them on what you coverage covers. good luck.
I highly agree. Typically when work is done with a home warranty, the service professional provides the estimate to the company who then tells you the home owner what is covered and not covered. Sounds like the estimate was provided to you directly? It's never a bad idea to double check before coming out of pocket.

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